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学者何毓琦 发表于2009-3-4 22:07:04
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学术教育
Not a Good Practice for Students
A recent happening cause me to write this article. Within a period of several days, I received three almost identical letters from students in three rather well known Chinese Universities, all located in major cities, requesting an electronic copy of a book of mine.
First a little background. Forty years ago, I co-authored a graduate level textbook on the subject of optimal control. The book was well received and attained the status of Science Citation Classic as the most referenced book on the subject. The book has been translated into Russian and Chinese and is still used in many courses in China and all over the world (since I still receive regular royalty income every year). Thus, I know copies of the book are available in many libraries and book stores.
Now let me guess the rationale behind the students requests
1. The students are poor and cannot afford to buy a copy of the book -  This is possible. However, their letters did not say this is the reason. Besides, I know textbook are subsidized and rather inexpensive in China even by Chinese standards. And anyone who can afford to own a computer should be able to afford a textbook. Chinese universities sometimes even help out students by distributing Xeroxed portions of a textbook (a questionable practice that is now becoming less prevalent)
2. The students are not aware that this shows bad behavior and lack of moral judgment Asking for complimentary copies of a paper or published reprint is an accepted practice in academia. However, asking for a free copy of a book is a different matter. Doesnt the student realize that for an author to give out free book copies is equivalent asking him/her to give up his/her income? Many authors depend on royalties to make a living. It is hard for me to imagine that a graduate student is unaware of such basic moral teachings.
3. Consequently I am driven to the more likely conclusion that this is one more sign of academic moral laxity where younger scholars learn to cut corners and take advantage of the system and at others expense while it is true I can afford to give away the royalty income of a copy of my book at my age and situation, it is the principle behind it that matters. First you are asking me to be a co-conspirator of a crime to rob the publishers of their income. Second, if I started to give out free copies when and where do I draw the line and stop?
4. Of course there are probably thousands of morally upstanding and law abiding students in China using my textbook. So what is the big deal about three examples out of thousands? However, statistics and sampling theory say that such examples are like the tips of an iceberg they are indicators of deeper and more serious problems. May be we are powerless to correct the ills of current academia. But as Professor Wang Hong-Fei lamented much earlier, the bad influences will permeate and pass onto the next generation. Chinese scholastic scene will not improve for another 20-30 years. That will be A TRAGEDY INDEED.
5. Finally, a lesson to be learned - Yes, it is easy to copy some text and send off an e-mail with little or no cost for potnetial gain. But "haste makes waste" . A student in science and technology should realize that 40 years ago, there is no such thing as word processing and PC and hence no electronic manuscripts. A little pause before acting will prevent you from showing ignorance.
Will the young scholars in China help to inform and police each other? You are the ambassadors and future of China.
(See also my added note below in [26]
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[35] 标题:My last word on the subject
发表评论人:何毓琦 [2009-4-30 5:06:07]   
It was pointed out to me that many textbook are electronically available on the Internet. And If I can will persuade the publisher to willingly give up the copyright on my book, then it can be made available for free via scanning all some 300 pages of the book. Yes this is possible for books that are out-of-print and no longer selling. But when it is still selling some 200 copies a year, no publisher will be willing to give up that income. What are the incentives for them to incur in addition the cost of doing this?
[34] 标题:
发表评论人:[游客]sayhier [2009-3-16 19:26:35] ip:222.66.175.*  
我想碰到这个问题时候,没必要一定在给和不给之间选择一个,给他些这方面的其他资料或者建议(不涉及著作权的),不也挺好。对于这些晚辈嘛,批评一下是应该的,能帮他们一下就帮一下吧。

博主回复:I know you meant well. But we all like to read and hear things we like to read and hear through our own filters. Actually I feel I have already responded and replied to your advices here in my two articles. You can find them if you read them again.
[33] 标题:
发表评论人:hbluo [2009-3-14 11:30:48]   
Dear Mr.Ho,You are and will always be the most respected person to us,and we know well all the good wishes you showed in your blog. As to the issue you present here,actually it is not right for the students to ask for copies of book without regarding the the intellectual property right,after all, it"s a concept received by most of the people in the world. However,inconvenience in resources available remains for so many years. I can clearly remember how eagerly I want to read when I was a child in coutries and I never miss any word I saw,even on broken pieces of paper and scribbled walls.Sometimes I believed it"s all because there was lacking in libraries and people were poor and could not afford to buy books. But it"s not real when I realized it in the university. It was still not easy to get books. Most of Our textbooks were bought from the seniors and sold to our juniors to save money when we graduated. Since the e-books are more convinient now,students are more likely to turn to the internet,get and give. Learning becomes easy.

It is really thought provoking.Paying for the author is necessary,they earn that money.But it is also definitely right to make people as knowledgable as they can. Sometimes I am so confused and I believe there might be some solutions to meet both the needs. Best wishes!
博主回复:Thank you and I appreciate your thoughts. This topic has certainly aroiused a great deal of interest. When I have time, perhaps I"ll write something to summarize all the views expressed here.
[32] 标题:
发表评论人:[游客]yy [2009-3-11 0:02:32]   
今天才知道何老师有这样的博客,一口气读完,对一个控制学科的博士生来说,真是受益匪浅,希望何老师继续写下去,让我们相约上海CDC
[31] 标题:
发表评论人:[游客]handsomeland [2009-3-10 10:41:09]   
Thanks to your triggerring, i have carefully reflected on this issue for a week. Here is the result, browse the link if you like:
http://www.instrument.com.cn/bbs/shtml/20090310/1777705/

i am sorry to tell you that my answer is negative to your question raised in the end of this article. i have no interest to debate about this issue further, but i think i need to hand on your question to my child.
Thank you and best regards.
博主回复:Thank you for your thoughtful comments. My article and response to comments make my views clear. As I said this is a "mini clash of civilization" and "generation gap between the young and old". I"ll be less surprised and more understanding next time. The issue is closed.
[30] 标题:当代中国学者给世界做过那些发明?
发表评论人:[游客]路客 [2009-3-7 19:59:18]   
当代中国学者给世界做过那些发明?在身边实在一个找不到!电话?手机?电视?电脑?化纤?纽扣?复合板?钢笔?铅笔?何教授能给介绍或分析一下吗?
博主回复:If you mean ethnic Chinese. there are many. An Wang is the first name that comes to mind. For the three years I worked in industry, I have three patents after my name. I am sure there are many others in fields I am not familiar. If you mean Chinese born and lived in China, I am the wrong person to ask.
[29] 标题:Take it easy.
发表评论人:[游客]coolboy [2009-3-7 3:24:56]   
Dear Professor Ho,

Please take it easy. You are doing a great job here to provoke a debate on a critical issue that both sides can openly present their views. In my humble opinion, because of its inspiring nature, the quality of this article together with many of the comments and your reponses is much higher than many of the other articles you have presented here.

The majority of the people who visit this website are intellectuals who are especially very good at reading between lines of articles related to politics or political systems. As a result, people may have totally different opinions on an issue that has been presented in an identical language. As long as the information and views on both sides have been openly, objectively and equally displayed, it is always a good thing to allow people to have different opinions because this will stimulate people’s creative thinking.

Best regards,

coolboy

P.S.: It is not a complete book but only part of the book that is shown below by the publisher or distributor in order to advertise the book. Often, older books in this kind of advertise contain fewer missing pages and yet those missing pages generally happen to be also critical to understanding.



博主回复:Dear Coolboy, Thank you very much for your kindness. I was not offended or upset. But I was surprised. But this is simply a matter of the older generation not understanding the younger generation (my naivete). And I was not concerned with whether or not my textbook should be freely distributed or my royalty income is missing at my age (some readers seem to think that was my complaint). In fact few authors of text book ever get rich this way. I was mainly concerned by the impression Chinese students present to the rest of the world (not to me) by such practice (the last sentence of my blog). In retrospect, you might called this a "mini clash of civilizations". You learn something everyday. Best, YCH
[28] 标题:主题已经被科学网删除!
发表评论人:已删除 [2009-3-7 1:39:35]   
此评论已被科学网删除!
[27] 标题:
发表评论人:[游客]不能这样唱衰中国 [2009-3-7 1:30:50]   
不能这样唱衰中国.
你那本书真的可以从国外网站下载,真的不稀奇!
博主回复:See my reply to comment [29] and the PS note there.
[26] 标题:An added note
发表评论人:何毓琦 [2009-3-7 0:39:25]   
I did not expect the responses aroused by this article. Apparently a significant portion of the youth or population of China regard sharing music, movie, and anything on the Internet with regard to the Intellectual Property Rights (IPR) of the creators as fair game. It is their birth right. In fact one proud communist party member invokes the party manifesto to say that IPR is a product of the capitalistic world and there are no need for a communist state or their population to respect it. I am not going to argue against such position and start a debate, particularly in these blog pages. However, such logic apparently by extension also applies in the mind of these youth to scientific papers and textbooks. And if true by further extensions appropriating the work of others without attribution and plagiarism should be permissible too. Once one starts on this slippery slope, it is not clear where is would end.
In any case, whether China by its sheer size and economic power will bend the will of the rest of the world to such view regarding IPR or will be forced to comply with what the rest of the world agreed to is a matter unlikely to be resolved soon. I’ll let the next generation decide for their own good or ill. I confess my naiveté and ignorance here.
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